Comments on: Hybels Disses Emergent Church Planting Video

By: Mr Bob

Mr Bob — Thu, 10 May 2007 15:00:32 +0000

Today was the first I had heard of the video or the man, but I am a big fan of David Murrow, and I worked for PK for a 5 years. I have also seen my share of Men being shunned in the church for being…men. So I like it and will continue to check him out and may begin a dialogue with him.
We need more men like this preaching the message men will follow.
one funny thing, when I was a young preacher (23) just out of college, I used the term “B.S.” (just the initials) and we had three families leave our VERY SMALL church….I laughed when I heard him use it.

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 08 May 2007 20:47:15 +0000

Dabney on women preachers, etc.:

“If any of our preaching women will work a genuine miracle, then, and not until then, will she be entitled to stand on the ground of Deborah or Anna.”

http://www.biblebb.com/files/RD-001WP.htm

By: Controversy « Contra Tenebra Lux

Controversy « Contra Tenebra Lux — Tue, 08 May 2007 04:58:56 +0000

[...] I first learned about this Mark Driscoll video here Since then it has grown and now you can read about it here and here not to mention here and of course here. [...]

By: Joshua

Joshua — Mon, 07 May 2007 14:58:08 +0000

I that Driscoll was part of the emerging church, and he was. But after seeing this video.. I started digging up some things about Driscoll. He apparently left the emerging movement… because he did not agree with what the other leaders were pushing.

By: Ryan Chase

Ryan Chase — Mon, 07 May 2007 13:40:30 +0000

“I don’t apologize for aggressive rhetoric against these people- it’s a straightforward, honest response to their passive-aggressive efforts to “corporatize” the church into a mish-mash of logos and self-help psychobabble. ”

Well put, I used to be a big fan of Hybels, I thought he was the perfect leader for the church. The reason I thought this was because it allowed me to apply what I like about corporate life to church life. I had a leader that taught that a church should run like a business. Being a business leader I started to have dreams about running a church like Hybels and read all the materials. Then I started reading the scriptures and something didn’t add up, God was second in command in Hybels books, Jesus was a good leader but not king of king, lord of lords.

There is a disconnect between the message in the large corporate churched, they have been forced now to replace the gospel with a watered down message about feeding poor people. They have turned the wonderful gospel into a work based, weak social gospel. They are completely man centered and have lost the holiness of God.

By: Michael Krahn

Michael Krahn — Mon, 07 May 2007 10:30:40 +0000

You say you don’t know much about Mark Driscoll…? Look into him more. Judging by your post, I think you’ll like him a lot.

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 07 May 2007 02:49:55 +0000

That was my first time hearing anything by Driscoll and I liked it quite a bit. If he’d thrown in the word repent or repentance when he talked about the gospel, it would have been spot on as far as what I expect to hear when someone talks about the gospel.

By: Reg Schofield

Reg Schofield — Sun, 06 May 2007 23:45:15 +0000

I was fasinated with Pastor Driscoll’s video. For the most part it is bang on. I have read Driscoll and listened to him and it is clear to me more than ever , he cannot be lumped with Bell or any of the emerging heresy that is out there. He stands for reformed teaching, upholds the word and is even for church discipline .
As to Hybels and his form of pastoring , I have long felt he was and is a compromiser and walks hand and hand with the world . So I’m not shocked he would say a word against the video since he loves the world more than the word of God and therefore , dishonors the Lord Jesus Christ!

By: Tom

Tom — Sun, 06 May 2007 19:13:45 +0000

John, did you even read the entire details of the Hybels/Clinton saga? It goes much deeper than just Clinton requesting counsel- and though a lot more could be said against the man pretty confidently, I only said what could be backed up with mainstream media sources.

I don’t apologize for aggressive rhetoric against these people- it’s a straightforward, honest response to their passive-aggressive efforts to “corporatize” the church into a mish-mash of logos and self-help psychobabble.

By: John

John — Sun, 06 May 2007 17:59:18 +0000

Unfortunately these types of blogs with their “hate anything new” approach cannot refrain from rhetoric and thus harm the good they can bring to the table. The slam at Hybels for being Clinton’s “spiritual adviser” which came as a request from Clinton, is akin to the Ingrid Schleuter’s constant slap-downs of Rick Warren and everything “Purpose Driven”. Some of the criticism is warranted but it becomes so over the top that none of it carries any bite after a while and it becomes nothing more than “yellow journalism”.